February 24, 2017 The original female search party member (SPM1) also spoke independently with another member of my team, a woman. An attorney for Kline declined to comment on the announcement. /u/LyonPirkey, thanks for the article. If the affidavit remains sealed, Rozzi said, it will make the prosecutors' and the defense attorneys' jobs more difficult since they will have to vaguely allude to allegations during arguments in future hearings, including the scheduled Feb. 17 hearing on whether Allen should be released on bond. The agent also references the video on Libbys phone where the suspect says guys, down the hill. She confirms the full video is 43 seconds long. This is one reason I dont think JBC is BG. Before Tuesday's hearing, prosecutors filed a motion for what amounts to a gag order, asking the court to bar statements or comments outside of the courtroom from all involved attorneys, law enforcement officials, court personnel, the coroner and family members. Diamond Bynum and King Walker, look that up one day. So how did you get the crime scene photo?? The team member said that SPM1 corroborated everything that she had told me, so she is at least consistent in her testimony. Here in Gary, about two years ago, a special needs woman and a toddler she lived with went missing. The multi-agency task force working on the Delphi case is certain that the new sketch accurately depicts the face of the man who killed Abby and Libby. A rose will bloom, it then will fade. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Delphi was revenge for Flora. Theres one reason I think we can all think of, best left unmentioned, and another, that they were out in the nowhere, possibly hunting but far away from the crime scene. Stores would have been stocked with them that week. Ronald Logan died Jan. 24, 2022. McLeland said the public and media interest in the case rekindled after Allen's arrest, and Allen's wife had to flee the community. A number of those slaughterhouses around there are indeed operated by Orthodox Jews. However, here is my argument for him as the BG: He does resemble the man in the video, particularly the short lower leg area. We would love to hear your thoughts on him and why or why not he might be a suspect in the Delphi murders. You see, another two victims together (if they suspect foul play?) As per the transcript, Kline also allegedly searched "how long does DNA last" in the aftermath of the murders, in addition to Googling updates on the Delphi investigation and searching for information about other unsolved killings, including the murder of JonBentRamsey. Im not sure how they phrased it of they told, ordered or threatened them to not reveal what they saw. (and probably always will) Obviously, they saw how their bodies were left and considering that, might have knowledge of how they were murdered from that scene. A five-and-a-half-year nationwide search for a suspect in the killings of two Indiana teens ended with the arrest of a local man, authorities said Monday.. How investigators came to arrest 50-year . First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: People are donating lots of money to Delphi podcasters Mike Greeno and Gray Hughes, which is their right. He was very well-liked in town. Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said the probable cause affidavit and charging information are sealed by the court. I think this is one of the essential clues in both cases. DELPHI, Ind. And thats not even the start of the weirdness. I do not understand the part about the CSI guy. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Stuffed animals at a double murder scene are weird enough, granted. "That's just a common thing to freak out about like, [why]; you know what I mean?" The officer seeks clearance and lets the male through the cordon. It also hints at the idea that they were meeting someone there, a gift for a date. It seems wrong somehow that it could be this narcissistic doofus. Since then, police have formed a task force for the case, interviewed suspects and followed tips, eventually leading to Allen's arrest. I guess the gist of it is that there were potentially hundreds of people signed up to search, citizen and LE, by the second day? For years, Becky Patty, Libertys grandmother, has posted a photo on Facebook every day in memory of the girls, usually with the words Today is the day in the image. I too wondered about foul play. During a search of Allen's home on Oct. 13, 2022, officers found knives and guns, including a "Sig Sauer, Model P226, .40-caliber pistol," the probable cause affidavit said. I have thought flora & Delphi are connected ever since I learned of the Flora Fire. For safety and security, the IDOC declined to say which facility Allen is being held. And my calculations by measuring the bear and comparing it to the height of Abby (54?) How many more than one? She said police hadn't contacted her about the search but had been for other significant developments. Its a much better purchase for your money than throwing money at Hughes and Greeno, for which you get almost nothing in return. Because the conditions of two men being alone with each other and out of sight of others for a significant period of time are pretty narrow. The chatter rose again after Allen sat down between his attorneys. DELPHI MURDERS Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found dead on Valentine's Day, 2017, a day after they vanished while hiking through the woods of the Historic Delphi trails. It is not a a palette knife, I know that much. According to court papers, Kline was temporarily moved from the custody of his local authorities and into the hands of ISP, the lead investigators in the Delphi murders, at around the same time the river search began. CVS worker Richard Matthew Allen, 50, was charged in October after an analysis concluded a 40-caliber round that was found between the bodies of 14-year-old Libby German and 13-year-old Abby Williams had come from a gun he owned, according to a probable cause affidavit made public Tuesday. On the Evansdale, Delphi case, who is the suspect? In Indiana, most defendants are entitled to a reasonable bail that is high enough to ensure the defendant's appearance in court, according to Indiana law. The two best friends went missing while on a hike through the historic trails Delphi, Ind. 0:04. Great Summary! I would like to remind the public that this is an active and ongoing investigation, and we will do everything we can to protect its integrity and to not try it in the court of public opinion. This young lady is a hero, theres no doubt, Indiana State Police Sgt. DELPHI, Ind. It also appeared the girls bodies were moved and staged., The agent goes on to say, Based upon my training and experience it is common for perpetrators of this type of crime to take a souvenir or, in some fashion, memorialize the crime scene.. Until his arrest last week on two counts of first-degree murder, Allen, 50, had no prior criminal record. Indiana State Police Generally at organized searches there's a required sign in sheet so all the volunteers can be accounted for at the end of the search shift. The main suspect and the CSI guy. And on the other side of the fence, single women bitch a lot about us men too. I would have thought that the name would have been accidentally leaked in town to let the families handle it if LE is unable to. She is rumored to have been brutalized more than Abby. Its nice to have a serious conversation without people chiming in with what if BG is a woman? (one thing I actually read this week) and other absurd speculation. Ronald Logan died Jan. 24, 2022. Your email address will not be published. Theres nothing pathological about oversharing. "Yeah, that is a weird a** coincidence that I happened to talk to her like I get that.". Abby Williams and Liberty German went missing while walking on The Monon High Bridge Trail on Feb 13, 2017. they were found murdered the next day, victims of an unsolved double homicide. That Monday afternoon, the two ventured onto the trail around the Monon High Bridge. wishtv.com your home page, Business, Equity and Opportunities Podcast with Scott Sander, Myles Colvin captivates Heritage Christian crowds, preps for Purdue, Indiana wildlife expert on bald eagle killing: Its sad, IMPD policy on seized guns called into question, Indiana governor grants clemency to prisoner with inoperable brain tumor, 2 tornadoes confirmed in northern Hancock County. Police announced on Monday that a suspect has been arrested in the killings of two teenagers that rocked a small town in Indiana more than five years ago. The Murder Sheet Podcastwas first to publish the transcript of an Indiana State Police interview with Kline, where he admitted having contact with Libby German and suggested police had told him he failed a polygraph test about the murders. Were not doing that anymore. Ive always said that I would be screaming on the rooftop. A search party found their bodies along Deer Creek, about a quarter of a mile east of the Monon High Bridge. Delphi murder suspect Richard Allen, 50, was involved in a domestic incident in June. He was charged with a probation violation for driving with a suspended. Allen's defense has not yet filed a rebuttal argument to the motion for a gag order, and Gull has not yet published an order on the motion. The people paying Hughes and Greeno clearly feel that they are getting their moneys worth. The big stuffed animal and all of the dolls would haunt me to the point that I would eventually have to tell someone. Who would be familiar with a hunting ground but a hunter? There were dolls hanging from trees. We have never given up. "Secrecy of judicial action can only breed ignorance and distrust of courts and suspicion concerning the competence and impartiality of judges, attorneys for the media wrote, citing a Nebraska case. If yes, they can sort out the crime scene DNA, right? Maybe BG felt he would be able to identify him since he had Crime Scene experience and had him done away with. He catfished them by pretending to be a cute 19 year old boy. The search warrant request came just over two weeks after ISP investigators interviewed Kegan Kline, the man they say was behind the Anthony_Shots social media accounts. Gray makes over $100,000/year from his podcasts, which is fine by me. ", The detective then asked: "So why would you worry about your DNA being on that body? I can see it from a teenager or maybe a n emotionally stunted 20+ guy, but this is a middle aged man! Anyone remember that letter and who that search coordinator was? Will the public interest be substantially served by limiting access?" What does he mean that they think they have Game but they dont. He is a welder and the hat the BG is wearing looks like a welders cap. I am close in age to Chadwell and I cannot imagine writing things like that. The river is roughly 40 miles from whereLibby and Abby were killed and around two miles from theKline family home. The motion cites the extensive media coverage as reasons for the proposed gag order. State police have refused to disclose what they were searching for or may have found; however, it's believed the extensive operation is connected to Trexler's cousin, Kegan Kline. So he killed them and then left them a Valentines Day gift for Valentines Day! ( as I said, I took this as I would a rumor-type of info and the only thing I've ever read about the crime scene. Because sometimes searchers get lost too. Scarf around neck. Why else do you think Carter would have said those things? Was it one person who discovered the girls? On February 13, 2017, Liberty "Libby" German, 14, and Ab Im pretty sure Chadwell is a hunter and fisherman. Allen pleaded not guilty in a preliminary hearing, Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said in a news conference Monday. 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