He knew what he was doing and he did it again. They are used you are not used as a chance for you to have knowledge that this is why its so important no contact, trust me I fell for it to the first timethen moved in with him and now my self estten is so bad because I have no whre to go to get away like I used to. I pray you have found a Christian counselor who can help you to truly forgive all those you need to forgive and to receive the necessary healing to move forward, however God may lead you. my relative is 11, I watched her growing, very loving family, but she was born with the disorder, no PTSD etc, their basement is an animal graveyard, stealing, verbal sadism, physical sadism towards other children, keeps distance from adults who dont take her pity me stories, manipulates fights between the parents, since at least, 8, etc. Am I bounding myself too much? Sad, but true. I am seeing thats it really isnt me. Just be silent and it will kill them. Then the telephone bill came in for the phone I gave him, here I saw he was communicating with 3 different women plus me. Even though its recently ended, he has tried to regain contact, to which I originally thought he must want control over me again. At that time, during dropping off my daughter to him, he grabbed at my breasts claiming he still owned them cuz he paid child support. The narcissists jealousy may even lead them to try and sabotage your new relationship by spreading rumors about you or your new partner. . No one mention Narissism. He doesnt want that getting out. Just like in your situation, I was blamed everything she did to me. To some extent I think there is the false assumption that people let themselves be treated badly and dont assert their boundaries. The sacred place where no one can get but i do. I dont normally believe in tarot card readings but last week, I had a general reading and the lady described my ex from the first card she read; she told me that he was instrumental in crooked goings on behind my back in my recent past (him getting back with is ex) that he was harboring secret grudges against me (which I believe since he was spreading lies and id put him out) and that this person wanted to be back in my life somehow, that he was looking for a crack or a doorway opening to come through cause he feels this is the time is right to reconnect with me. Him and I have a son who will be three tomorrow. -Alienation from family and/or friends Till this day I do not have prove that this is his way of getting me to contact him, but I have seen a pattern. Or the Terminator you cant reason with them, they feel no regret, they feel no remorse they are sick and the pieces of the puzzle will never been finished, they will destroy your very soul. I had to go back into the house to get some other items and took them out to him. About 95% of the time we got along terrifically and truly enjoyed each others company. He told police that he did threaten to kill me in the heat of an argument and that I did it too and Denied everything else ! This gives them a great advantage over us. Theyll disappear for a couple of weeks and then pop up out of the blue and start trying to woo the ex. Of course I found that out much later. They become overly critical of you. I love being your pain. Learn how your comment data is processed. So they make a mental note that feeding you a dose of guilt got the job done, so they throw in some more. I cant imagine being married to him. I miss my son so badly. I cant believe I found this page. I will say that with this latest cut off, (after borrowing the $3,000) she mentioned that I have put you through a lot, and for you to still be my friend through all of it is something that I am so thankful for. I want just to correct things and ease my memory of those wronged, then disappeared. Any other advise would be greatly appreciated. What do you think his next move will be. I have the cat who is happy and thriving and settled and secure after surviving Camerons neglect. It also dawned to me how extremely immature she seemed for a 37 year old woman. What is worse, however, when dealing with narcissists, is feeling the effect of their lack of empathy and cruelty. I didnt make a scene, closed the door and broke down in tears! Same thing moved in and almost immediate the Narc mask started slipping. I take responsibility of this mess, as I should have understood my actions and those of my wife. I will never see my loving daughter again from this mess, as she is studying in France. They want to check up on you []. He even gave me advice and a shoulder to cry on when I was dealing with issues with my mom. If shes a really good friend, you may want to tell her about your experience and explain to her what your Narc was like. Maybe this is a part of his punishment of him. I am totally spinning, dont know which way is up, I find it difficult to make decissions & I feel completely Lost without him !!. Looking back at my relationship with the N, I realized there were red flags from the beginning. Still a part of letting go. He wants nothing to do with me now. Thats no live. If you know youre not mentally strong enough to remain friends with a narcissist, dont do it. Mine seemed disinterested and almost pretended they were not there. Your article helped me tremendously understand exactly what is happening to me and every word you said is exactly what Im going through. Then I questioned how the hell I missed all the signs but then again, hes smooth, charismatic, cerebral and a great actor. No he way too skilled to do it that way. But he finds out soon. This is less consciously manipulative in narcissists who are non-malignant and non-cerebral, its more instinctive as though they believe that theyve made themselves vulnerable and you might attack, so they hide in fear of your attack. He cant be a friend and you know this. To take someone in your live just to feel not alone. But he has taught me the game so now I am always one step ahead of him. However she had a mean streak in her. Shes going to fall just like the rest and I cant say anything. Start standing up for your personal space and comfort. 1. The next step is restraining order. Thank you. I installed an number blocker on my phone just in case. The narcissist will try and convince you that theres something wrong with you for not staying friends. Learn a new skill I even miss him (the fake him) sometimes too. I would be willing to bet anything that that girl hes talking to, will soon be me. He still sees me as his best friend. No, his initals werent IF It took me a long time to heal, too, because for one, I didnt realize at the time that my Ex is a Narcissist, so I didnt know to look for applicable healing resources. Here are three tricks that the abuser will try: 1. I have a big heart, and this made it easier to play me and hurt me. I no longer care if hes thinking of me or not as I am moving on and doing so quickly. I now focus on my recovery, and helping others. Funny thing is Eden, she says oh he is happy now, blah blah, and she told me the reason he could not get it up is because he stopped liking me as a person. As a Christian, I dont want to have sex until I am married but I also wouldnt move in with someone either. But it has to. He answered a text once. I dont really understand why its so easy for her to just up and leave. I dont know about the sex because he found it difficult to get it or keep it up towards the end of us as I was onto him and was setting boundaries, the stress was killing his libido I think, hence the reason this new target suits because she is careful and that suits him because he cant perform ? Thanks Anon, if he only cares about appearances why is he so indifferent to losing the material things he once treasured so highly?? Whether a narcissist discards you permanently depends on three basic factors: Whether they have an alternative source of self-esteem building narcissistic supplies. And make no mistake: the BPD will be laughing/orgasming with their Newest Vessel as you plummet to your death. Either way, wishing you and your doggie all the best. So please let me know when you get home and I will call you back. That judge has no clue the abuse and the wreckage that woman had done to me! My ex was a fullfledged NARC to the tee. Also, while he was here, I told him I couldnt find the remote to my livingroom tv; I wasnt sure I packed it up in his stuff when he left that night but I told him if he happened to come across it, fine. Never thought Id walk from her, she was so different . Yes I believe that a Narcissist can be beat at their own game. The last four years together ( out of 8 ) were hell! They even manipulate you to believe that you are a drama queen or some kind of a very sensitive person. They love the attention whether bad or good. I have a real one for you. Since my ex has found out, I have had him slandering my name to mutual friends. I cant make you happy. I just want what is best for both of us, and at this point, I believe time apart is what is best. He is now living in a caravan park with her and her daughter. But, then he was back. I fell for it every time due to my ignorance on this subject. There is something so mysterious and sympathetic about her. We had a very loving relationship, but it didnt stop him from being manipulative and verbally abusive when he felt hurt or angry. All because I told him he was a liar and I didnt trust him. Could the police involvement push him over the edge? Keep reading if you want to find out how narcissists treat their exes. There are many people who understand you and you can get support from many people. I want Information on winning a narcissist without no contact. Recently I heard he is raging at her for the same bizarre stuff he did with me (just for being a woman basically) and she is crying and confused (all while going through chemo for cancer). Reading Suggestion: Are Narcissists Happy With Themselves? If someone wants to be part of it good. I have learned SO much. I needed support for the situation with my mother. The second scenario is that the narcissist left. I know for sure that that moments are real. This male is 63 years old and no end of this obsession in sight. I did not know that. You dont want to touch that and those diseases. By Jodie Milton. At this point your Narcissist has gotten what they wanted - contact. I wish I could get that part back, but alas. (for domestic violence, of course) and then killed in another country. I do all that. Hell find someone else once he gets bored like they always do. If you are truly the owner of this image, you should already be aware of it being hosted on their platform. 2. Is he really done? I must say this. you are worthy and deserving of true love, attention, affection, respect and admiration. Then after a month or so of me not answering he would send a text hey how are you? I told him to leave me alone this time for good which was hard, but now seven months later I got a missed call from the his previous job. I was just done. Sorry this is so long, but you all know how complicated these relationships are to explain. I have been with him for almost 2 years. A checklist of narcissistic douche-canoe behaviors | Process of Elimination. The solicitor states the deed is in force and to get my house back I must pay her close to 65,000. The last outing he attended was 19 years ago. Since I feel like the walking dead and a non-functional parasite to society, any suggestions on what can I do? Thank you FREEATLAST for publishing that note! Im still trying to get over a 10-year thing with a narc woman. Ellen, if you dont mind me saying , I think your mistake was thinking you could be friends with this man. The narcissists jealousy will lead them to want to drag you back down to the level you were at when you were together. Reading this site has helped me get a little better handle on my feelings however. Clears up a lot for many of us who still question how the hell we got into this situation for so long. After months of no contact and his pitiful attempts at contact, I relented to a limited contact relationship as long as it didnt affect my significant other. So many things about human behavior have come into sharp focus for me, and it caused me to take a major step back before proceeding to date others. He wouldnt say it, I would just read that because that is what hes saying. Dont do anything you dont feel comfortable withwith the exception of legal orders. Hi Carole. They only target good, honest, decent, strong, sucessful, happy, Loving people with everything going for them. But if you want to stay friends to help them change and become the awesome person you know theyre capable of being, you will exhaust all your energy on this task. After that an tekst said peace and have a nice life. They're ignoring you and making themselves inaccessible to you. Im proud to say it worked, i blocked her on social media, blocked her phone number and deleted her from my life, that was 6 months ago. Therspist didnt mention anything about narcissism but one Christmas eve my ex narc left mw stranded. Child is best for child and for you in Abuse and CoDependency Recovery going through similar I am not an expert but serious watch this lady Lisa A Romano (married twice to 2 Narcissists and watch Ross Rosenburg counselor super aware too). over and over. When I wouldnt walk away from the church I was the evil one and incompetent. This enraged the narcissists because narcissists dont get dumped. The healing here is astonishing. That answer depends on the type of person you are. He does have borderline traits as well. I had been in an on and off again relationship with my Narc for 25 years and I finally broke free. My narc actually made up a lot and told everyone I was cheating on him.. Come to find out that his wife found out about us and told him she was done lol lol lol!! Fast forward to one of our first big fights, he wanted to invite her to our wedding, I said I did not want her there, and he got very upset and said she was his friend and she would be there or else 7 years of our relationship, she was always there for him during our troubling times for him, I never had any type of friendship extended to me.This was the beginning of unforeseen trouble. Pretty much same story, different couple. I finally learned after falling for the hoovering several times. Its also why they appear so happy with the new supply. He took on my other three kids from previous marriage. I realized that all my love could not counter his dark side, so I left. Its so difficult for people to understand this on and of relations who did not went through this. Best of luck to you!! Never wanting to own any accountability for their behavior, and, always blaming others for their shortcomings. The relationship with the Narc causes a biochemical addiction, in addition to the brainwashing of our psyche. To this day h will not admit this, I have even exchanged emails and texts with the woman who he had the affair with. Now i think on my timeline of my life. Jalours on my attention that i give to my sick mother. Youll discover that you can fly, and theres a flock of us ready to encourage and support you. So you have the option of reaching out to your ex without it causing damage. I still feel so in love with my Narc ex and I dont know how to get rid of that feeling!! When I rebuked him and told him his gf wouldnt like that then he said they werent sexual. The plain people are t so perfect my heart aches for what I know and Im so grateful for my station in life and enjoy that out here in my English world, I have means to escape if I need to. Women can be Narcissists too and it is just as traumatic to a man as it is to a woman. Sadly I still Love him dearly, despite losing everything & him calling the Police & threatening to get me put in Jail !!!!!!!!!!. He became sexually abusive. I keep seeking closure or caring that I know will never come. Once I tore off his mask, the abuse got worse. Sometimes they come back to see if they can still mess with your mind but once they see you are on to them and they cant convince you to side with them anymore, they usually slither away. It's part of a healthy ego. He claimed that I shouldnt harden myself and that he was one of the good guys. This is when she got her hooks in me. Although you didnt need to be a rocket scientist to workout it wasnt new. Advice please, and why now feel the need to tell me or try warn me off?? I think its time for total no contact! He kept trying to convince me that i was the crazy one and he is not a liar and not crazy. Then I got the silent treatment, he bought me a birthday gift put it in my back door but still would talk to me. He told me he shall do everything in his power to make it work. My words to him were I forgive you because I know you are a tortured soul. I hope you get some help because I think you have a lot of potential. Then he called me. The judge issued a no-contact order but he has been calling/texting my friend where I am staying, making demands or he is going to tell the state attorney this, that or the other. So, after theyve broken up with you and in a new relationship, the narcissist might feel that the supply theyre getting from their current partner is not as good as the supply, they got from you. I responded and got no reply. In fact the fusion/input of all other schools is extremely valid. Thats the weakness of women who loves so much. If the narcissist keeps coming back . And all the good times we had, because he did treat me very well (u can read my her posts). Although the dad loved that dog more than anything, it was a threat to his family now and he had to get rid of it. So, by doing a good deed and letting her borrow that money, I get in return NO money back AND cut completely from her life. Thank You for posting this narcisistic love letter I had prior knowledge from reading self help books and therapy for the abuse myself. Aside from social media stalking, many ex-couples continue to actually communicatetrying to stay friends. . I found out two days before I was going to move in with him. It has been five months since I last spoke with her, four months since I received a text, and three months since she blocked me from facebook. Always playing the victim card. No matter how many times you tell your ex-partner to stop contacting you, theyll keep showing up. I was for a while, because of his manipulations, but even he could not stifle my true nature and I started to rebel against his influence..even if it was well-meaning as he always claimed. So dear friend I understand how difficult when it appears to the rest of the world that you have a great partner and marriage when you know the reality of it all. I crawl back now. Facades, smokes, masks and mirrors aside, I feel my narc and I have a lot in common that cant be enjoyed because of his cruelty and my ultimate discard of him which in hindsight must have been a fairly traumatic thing for him. Ive done tons of research and believe him to be a Covert Narcissist, which is a little more complicated, because he believes his own hype. Im seeing all this sometimes all the time. Walk away. The happy times we shared were almost spiritual in nature. Better person I dont know. The only reason theyve mentioned therapy is to manipulate you. . We left without saying goodbye. Third, they like having more than one source of supply because when they get bored with one, theyll just start a fight and then go off with the other for a while. In this case, since youre saying you dont want to be friends anymore, hell remind you that hes got something on you that could destroy you. You think you are completely over them but letting them in too soon gives them the opening to triangulate, manipulate and mind phuck. If you listen cafefully to what they say to you, they are actually telling you what they are and or what they are doing to you. Yes, I told him finally a few months after we broke up in an email. I know two men that have had narc ex-wives and they are crazy womenjust as mentally sick as my ex. That last part may not be healthy, but thats where I am now. -Condescending attitude toward partner, condescending tone The best thing to do is be yourself and let the Narc back himself into a corner. Thanks a lot! Prefers the Im so much better/deserve more than you attitude. I dont even know if you desire to changebut I brought it up because often when people are in emotional turmoil, thats what drives them to try to make these kinds of major changes in their lives about how they are interacting with the world. Sometimes think i am getting over it. He obviously has others. After months of drama and him being distant (but at the same time saying he loved me and that he wanted to grow old with me), I broke up with him. What do I mean by need? It really is tricky with a covert narcissist as they dont do the really mean things and only do the rage thing occasionally. It could go either wayeither he wants you as supply, or he wants revenge and is preparing for a painful and harrowing discard. She recently moved in with him, I believe. I understand where youre coming from, but the frustrating truth is that each time you reach out to him it gives him validation that he is still on your mind and he derives great enjoyment from having the opportunity to tell you that its over. I am atractive when i look strong. Why? Perhaps we had to cut off all communication without any conversation at all. Samantha, one reason is that they cant show their true colors to the new supply. Now, I feel that if one is to be a friend, that they might want to extend their friendship to me as well. She soon tired of his parasitic ways and attitude and I told him no way to him moving back in with me. And talks bad about me to everyone. He said he does not need sex because they are friends first, pffft whatever. Good job! The only reason why there was any communication in April of this year is because he was snooping on my LinkedIn profile. Theyll use this opportunity to butter you up and tell you how awesome you are, that theyre still in love with you, and if you cant be lovers, theyll settle for just friends. everybody knows, its a psychopathic cluster,all listed disorders include the NPD and all are Antisocial. Its only for a few months, a few, LONG months of sheer hell! My ex husband and I had been together for 14 years, we married on our 7 year anniversary. Also, relationship between the BPD and NPD. Im down to less than 100 pounds Im about to lose everything I got and he takes my fight to survive and I have to survive my kids mean more than anything and keeping their home and me being happy. So I felt your words and enjoyed reading you this morning. I was extremely cautious and he knew it. I dont take suicide lightly, so I advise you to seek professional help if it ever comes to this. They usually do, whether sooner or later. 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