Dont do it, it is too expensive. I am planning on becoming a lawyer in the future and received the nomination letter for the National Youth Leadership Forum. Shame on NYLF for taking advantage of parents of students who only wish to have the best education for their children. Then we read the NYLF Security: Diplomacy, Intelligence, and Defense brochure. However, my parents are debating whether or not to allow me to go considering the fact that it is uncertain if parents are allowed to go. The Youth Leadership Summit is designed to engage the next generation of leaders and introduce them to the world of international affairs. Im thinking this is to young. it's legitimately a program, but it's also a profit making enterprise, extremely expensive and not worth your while. I wish to know if as a introductory to engineering would this be worth it? I cant find any complaints about the safety. I think she can save the fancy letter with the gold seals as a memento of her teachers belief in her abilities and her character. My situation is very similar. It seems legit tbh because its soonsored by a lot of credible organizations- one being Uchicago. Such as if it would be something out of my league to attend to or not. My son has also received this opportunity. They are over-hyped, but they are also legitimate summer experiences that many students have enjoyed and benefited from. Probably not. Id love to hear from anyone who has sent their elementary age child. There are so many other programs out there that you dont need to worry about the 24 hour pressure. My son is now a sophomore, we can drive to DC and has an interest in National Security/Military. Required fields are marked *. Once I got notice I was unsure, though she was dying to go. Id have to stay in a hotel for a week also because I cant fathom the idea of dropping her off and leaving her 8 hours away for a week. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the NYLF National Security. Being open to all students is fine, of course, but the problem is that the company sells the camps as a special honor to the best students, implying that not everyone can get in or will be selected. I am actually questioning if it is legitimate as he did not apply or sign up. I AM ALSO A MOM OF THREE GROWN KIDS WHO ARE WELL EDUCATED AND NOW HAVE WODERFUL JOBS AND FINANCIAL SECURITY Look into opportunities through community groups or area religious groups. I would love to go into Engineering and participate in an Engineering Program at my school and do advertising for it so was I possibly nominated for that reason? Megan, The other day I received an email stating I had been nominated for the NYLF medical program. You identified the key question which program will have the greatest impact? All the juniors were taught basic elements of financial aid. My 9 year old 4th grader just received this invite. @PinkScholar12. OUR DAUGHTER IS 14 & IN 8TH GRADE, IS THIS TOO SOON? My most important question is which program would have the most impact, the most impression on my student if they want to continue to pursue or not their career path? I am not happy! AND MAKE SURE YOU NETWORK!! As the parent of two kids (12 & 17), I would NOT recommend sending your third grader on this experience. Why dont you look for some weekend workshops closer to home? A College Prep Saturday participant plays an HSF trivia game, in which he had to spin the wheel and answer questions based on the categories. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); College Prep Results, LLC: A Megan Dorsey Company. There will be plenty of opportunities down the road. Ive been reading a lot about the programs offered. Dont go UNLESS you can guarantee this programs credibility. This company feeds off of parents and students desire to feel special. I received the invitation to attend NYLF: Pathway to to STEM for my son Isaac. Its a bought-and-paid for program that doesnt give you a big gain on the admissions thing. I think itd be a good experience overall. You might want to listen to episode 27 of The College Prep Podcast. Also, you mention other camps and programs. My 10 year old also received a letter from NYLF. I got nominated and my mom thinks it too much just for one child.1,970$. DO WHAT YOU CAN NOW TO GIVE THEM THE EDGE THEY NEED FOR A REWARDING FUTURE. Thank you. I have a feeling that our school is in a position to attempt to get as much money as they can get their hands on. My name is Michael, Im a sophomore, and I was wondering if youre sure the letters are not a scam. What do you think? Some programs also get mailing lists from the SAT, PSAT, ACT, PLAN, etc. By the description provided, we thought we ought to provide my son the opportunity. Jonathan, We want you (our children) to have it easier than we did! Overview IEL connects and mobilizes a deep network, prepares and supports leaders as they grow their skills, and builds capacity for them to thrive. I guess I will most likely be not attending. I hope he has a great time. Theyre very vague about the program but immediately asked for money which is a bit scary /: Samrina, The first is that anyone can nominate anyone to attend and there are no selection criteria for getting in, other than a parent writing a check. You can call and ask. Hi Shannon, Megan. Youth Leadership Summit. The event was free and bilingual for all Hispanic families who spoke Spanish better than they did English. Its a lot of money and some of the people who have gone said they feel they didnt receive their moneys worth (its only a week long but you pay $2000~$5000). My sons name was given, by his principal for the NYLF mailing list. the applications are due sometime in april, and you just have to outline your financial situation. Even though I bought the travel insurance, it says they can keep your full tuition amount. Still, the BBB rating doesnt seem to reflect the user comments on the site (https://www.bbb.org/washington-dc-eastern-pa/business-reviews/lecture-and-seminar-bureaus/envision-emi-in-washington-dc-7001305/reviews-and-complaints). Thanks for the un bias information, it has been helpful. I received a letter, but Im a freshman in high school, and I havent taken my SAT, ACT or any test like this. We were terribly disappointed in the staff, content of material taught, supervision, quality of kids and quality of teachers. Bottom line, highly underwhelming. First, National Youth Leadership Forum (NYLF) programs are legitimate. An important thing to note about academics and how to impress colleges is to recognize that colleges look at you from the context of your school, Ferguson said. Hell be attending in March 2016. Junior Aline Tran from Burbank High School personally recommends fastweb.com as a useful website for easy access and guidance to scholarships. Can you send a link of their program? Best wishes for success in your degree program. I cant say whether the National Youth Leadership Forum program is right for your family. My son attended the STEM camp this summer. Many list top students and send them back to National Youth Leadership Forum. No single activity will impact admissions; colleges are looking at the big picture. Further, the programs are run by a for-profit company, called Envision EMI. It is a nice program right for some people, but not for everyone. Can you offer any feedback? When I clicked on the scholarship link, it said in the near future. We are about to pay for her to attend but will like to know if the amount you pay includes your flight to go and return, if she will be traveling with other students choosed from different schools or if we have to find a means for her to get to the college campus she will attend the program at. It says it accepts 200 low-income students and will be held at UChicago without any fees, even transportation. We were told 24 hours to notify them, Iam so glad I saw all these comments, I think I d rather gas up my car and spend the $$$ on visiting museums & historical sights over the summer instead. Ive worked as a high school and independent counselor for years, so Im telling you what Ive observed from years of working with students and talking with college admissions officers. I would also love to hear from you. Id love to hear your feedback now that your daughter has attended. Does this seem extremely young to be attending something like this? I can say I was extremely excited for him and his recognition. Id love to hear about your childs experience with the program. Special thanks to The University of Chicago #UChicago for serving as our host campus. (starts at about 22:20 minutes) Listen on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-college-prep-podcast/id909682404?mt=2) to episode 27 or listen here: http://collegepreppodcast.com/2015/01/increasing-act-scores-learning-disabilities-math-best-summer-camps/ I am assuming at least half of my grade got one but just want to be sure. Transportation to and from home and the program location is NOT included in tuition. [Update: We discuss the National Youth Leadership Forum programs and other options on the January 26, 2015 episode of The College Prep Podcast. Youth Leadership Institute - Use Your Voice Youth Voice Changes Communities I am a. I received a letter from the NYFL for business and am very interested in attending. I went to this last summer and it was nice for engineering. Megan. Most of the students in my orbit praise the National Young Leaders Conference Program (NYLC) and its affiliated programs as being very interesting and well-run. Im a sophomore and I got one of these in the mail yesterday and Ive been reading about the program online. You are the best judge of what is appropriate for your daughter. Would he get more out of the program if you waited a year or two? If these are legit programs, why the subterfuge? Has nothing to do with being or feeling special.. Im always the first to be able to tell something is a scam and the amount of money my parents waste on me should not rise anymore, but the NYLF for Engineering (a career path I am not sure if I really find interest in anymore , but I circle on the SAT anyway) is in San Francisco and I would love to go there without parents even if its a scam. Bonus if your not a paid spokesperson for this program because apparently those exist. It was very educational. Will he really benefit by going to this program? Would be nice to here from someone whos child actually attended. Your advice about researching cheaper options is spot on. Megan, Thanks Megan! I did take the PSAT but I did not say anything about National Security. Oh, and the low monthly payments range from 500 to 800 dollars a month. Megan. The programs offered through the NYLF are legit and do help high schoolers prepare for several specific career fields. However it does cost a lot, do you think the cost is worth the learning and opportunity? Ive had students attend and enjoy these programs. Will it provide me with any type of competitive edge for college or a career in medicine in the future? I have not researched the nomination process, but I have to believe it is more than teacher recommendations. Conference Registration will open early May. Weve had a lot of success with day programs run by local museums. You will have a lot of opportunities to attend programs like this in high school, so dont worry that this will be your only opportunity. To enrich their lives with what is important to them. This program was definitely NOT worth the price and in fact we found the materials describing the forum bordering on false advertising. Stay tuned. It is probably a more accurate description. He also read the brochure carefully, studied the various activities outlined, handed the paperwork back to me, nodded, and said, Yeah, Id pay money for that. Nothing should stop you [from going to college]. Students will have the opportunity to meet new people from all over the country and stay connected with them before and after the event. Thank you for adding so much information to the discussion. Do think its worth $2000 for me to go to this program in the summer of 2016? The National Youth Leadership Forum (NYLF) is a series of summer programs through the Envision group that prepare students for college and careers. AS A SINGLE MOM ,I DID EVERYTHING I COULD ,WITHOUT ANY FINANCIAL HELP ,TO SECURE THEIR COLLEGE EDUCATION Wells Fargo has committed over $24 million to HSF, which has supported over 3,000 scholars across the country. That would most definitely be the biggest downfall to the program. Really hesitant about the whole thing. Megan. They called me and confirmed information and the lady asked about name, birthday, address, etc. They will also know that you arent turning down what might be an amazing experience only because of the cost. You should listen (starts at 22:20 minutes in.) Megan. Even my child said it is too expensive. Also, scholarships and grants should absolutely not ask for fees of any sort; if they do, they are most likely a scam. Unfortunately, the pandemic made this mission very difficult. It doesnt seem worth the high cost. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. For more than 30 years, Envision has worked to help students discover their passions, explore careers, and make a difference in their communities. I keep reading about the marketing scam and the cost. The NYLF programs are legitimate and Ive had many students attend and enjoy them. Again, that does not mean Envision Experience, Envision, EMI, or the National Youth Leadership Forum are a "scam." I think it would be more accurate to describe what Envision Experience offers as very expensive, possibly under-delivering camp experiences for people who really want their kids to succeed but may not realize that there is no . I know it might seem too good to be true but its 100000% legitimate and everything is free, even the flight if your family cant afford to purchase it. Im not sure if these are being read or not, but i believe the most tempting part of NYLF is the fact of the leadership aspect. Im working on my bachelors of science currently and already have an associates degree! Unfortunately, based on what ive read these programs are expensive and my family is of low income. You can start listening at 22:20 to hear me and my co-host, Gretchen Wegner, discuss the NYLF programs and the benefits and drawbacks. 6 people in my school (elementary, middle, and high school) got nominated, so I think that it is pretty exclusive. If you're considering NYLF because you think it's prestigious, you'd be dead wrong. Youth Leadership Consortium - Scam? Thank you for the help. Hey. Just added! And, get this, their instructions for teaching you how to code.. hogwash. You might find something close to you that costs a fraction of the price. The workshops were all dissimilar; each grade level got to learn from two different workshops. Ill let you know if I do find something. I hope to hear back.. If you have particular universities in mind add the school name to your search. Hi! Do some additional research into options then you may feel more confident making a decision. Young Leaders Consortium, is it a scam? Id encourage you to save some money and find something less expensive. They do grant a limited # of partial scholarships. But finding something like this for someone who hasnt even gotten into middle school yet is hard. I would be the first person in my family to get a degree and be a doctor, Tran said when asked about how important it is for her to go to college. Columbia University in New York City. Enroll Now Nominate As an Educator As an Alumnus Scholarships was it worth it? She just won a superior for her district STEM Fair in Behavioral Science and Im proud as can be. I cannot speak for the background checks from NYLF or any other organization. Yet they still dont listen to me. Their is an FAQ section for students on their main page. My guess is they got your name somewhere in the admissions process. Should I consider it? I asked how many kids were awarded the scholarship and she said she did not have that information. Megan. The STEM officials have yet to respond to concerns I raised to them about camp. You might want to compare the National Youth Leadership Forum offerings to the programs offered by different colleges. The NYLF programs are not bad, but they are financially out of reach for many. Before you make a decision, spend some time researching other programs. (We threw those away.) Some people regarded it as a scam but others claimed that it was a genuine program. Youth Leadership Consortium; Career Connection Days; College Camp. On their website they say the program includes everything except transportation to and from the place. I understand the cost, and my family is prepared to shell out the cash. I am so sorry that we have not made it as simple as it should be to get you to the right person. Of course, you know your son best. Thanks!! I know for a fact that my parents cannot afford it. Last summer my daughter had finished 8th grade and was getting ready to enter high school. I cant see how any of these programs would be worthwhile to elementary- or middle school-aged children. 2018 Young Leader's Summit by the Youth Leadership Consortium: Is it a scam. How much can it cost and how did they get my name? Another thing to consider with college application is to find the right school for you; the way to determine this is through extensive research and finding out a colleges majors, financial aid, location, graduation rate, campus life, public vs. private school and religious vs. non-religious school environments. I am now a physician and attended the NYLF on medicine. Megan, Hi, The registration fee is $1,000 per student. My son is 12 and in the seventh grade. I think it was only so great because of the people I met there, though. The cost is $3,395 for 8 days not including air-fare. Call NYLF and ask about the program you are considering. Let us know if in the end it was worth it. I just received an email about being nominated for NYLF: Medical Program. Hi! If needed, the Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA) can contribute to a certain familys EF C, as long as said family reapplies every year. The entire experience was a huge disappointment for us, and my son tells me that was the prevailing sentiment among most of the kids he spoke with. Youth Consortium is a diverse, youth-led group focused on civic engagement and leadership. Fergusons entertaining personality was more than enough to keep the entire room listening, as he rarely drifted off topic and provided several Curtis Helpful Hints.. Megan. Matt, All in all it was one of the greatest weeks of my life. They targeted my 9 year old son through his teacher. Megan, My granddaughter receive letter today in mail about program she very interest in attending dont have funds to attend is there assistance for low income families. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Its a good program for what you want to do, but be prepared to be fed up with them when they try and bring you into other events. and our There are obvious differences in the programs, and I would not even consider the regular. Then a couple of days later one of my students pulled out a packet and showed it to me. These are not something you can find courses of study on for an 8 year old, especially not one who already knows half the periodic table of elements! Thank you for sharing! WITH THE COMPETION FOR A SPOT IN A GOOD COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY SO COMPETITIVE, YOU CAN USE THIS PROGRAM AS A SPRINGBOARD TO MAKING IT AN EASIER ROAD I was quite proud of myself, but was confused as to how these people found out about me and my personal information. I was just wondering about how a college would look at me being involved in a program such as this and how they would perceive my application on whether they like it or not? (YLS), a free program for low-income high school juniors in which the students go to the University of Chicago on a four-day retreat to learn about college. Godinez also introduced Matthew Fissinger (LMU Admissions) and Cesar Trujillo (Senior Vice President National Implementation Manager) to instill a few words of inspiration and hope and also speak a few words on behalf of their positions. However, you dont mention some of the other key problems with NYLF, so I wanted to note them here. Im sorry your son didnt have a worthwhile experience, but I appreciate you sharing it here. Is this worth attending? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. College Prep Saturdays main goal is to teach middle and high school students and their parents how exactly to plan, prepare and pay for college. The students, ranging from freshmen to seniors with some eighth graders mixed in, were then divided by grade level and taken to different rooms for the two workshops about college information. Thats why its so expensive. The application workshop dove into what is most important in college applications in comparison to what isnt, how to build a resume, and how to find the college best fit for you. We encourage you to apply today via your myHSF profile! I got a letter saying I have been invited to one of their programs. So I have no idea if youre still reading these or not but recently I have received one of their offers in my mail. Applications for many programs are due in the next couple months. However, I feel as if the marketing materials overstate the prestige. YLI is a free, college empowerment program for high achieving Latino high school juniors, held virtually and at two top universities across the US. My 13 year old daughter was nominated by her teacher, as were several other kids in our charter schools middle school program. If one can participate in a two-week college program for the same price, he or she will also gain an appreciation for dorm and college life. My finances are not exactly capable to cover the $2000 tuition but several family members donated enough to make our first payment. So, any thoughts or answers? How do you feel NYLF Stem program compares with Duke Tip? Posted in Honors / Awards. John, This is not a scam, but this program is no more recognized than other organized summer-camp program. Thanks for the warning! Candice, Michael, Im assuming its for the flight information. I am not interested in gaining prestige, just experience and a fun week filled with learning. Im already doing many medical related volunteer work and im not so sure if its completely worth it now. That is awesome of you and congrats! I recently received an email from the Youth Leadership Consortium inviting me to apply for the Young Leader's Summit. Hi! Did you take the SAT? But this seems like a great program that I could definitely benefit from. I have several friends applying, and we are all trying to get in the same week. It sounded so awesome before I realized that they sent a letter to everyone whose name they could find. Thought it was a scam right away when the first letter said to the parents of Candice. After that conversation, I grew suspicious of the company intentions. Once I searched about it online, I got conflicting reports about it. 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