And I looked in the thing, I said, Holy shit. She was a nasty old lady! But that was funny. That place took off like you couldnt believe. Q: So about this house, I wanted to ask about the Friends of the Seguine Mansion. Q: Did you keep up a conversation with Mario Buatta about. And if you can capture and keep something that looks like this, then this is a big plus for the area. People: Mario Buatta, Luis Caizares, Linda Daller, John Krawchuck, James and Kathleen Pistilli, Adriana Scalamandr, John Scalia, Elizabeth Bess Seguine Aug, Joseph Seguine, Organizations: Friends of the Seguine Mansion, Historic House Trust, House of Scalamandr, NYC Departments of Parks and Recreation, Sherwin-Williams, U.S. Air Force, Places: Annandale, Hammersmith College, Port Richmond, Old Bermuda Inn, Saks Fifth Avenue, Seguine Mansion, St. George, Staten Island, Tidewater Inn, Tottenville, The New York Preservation Archive Project. Utica. Id come back up and I could still smell it in the hallway. Nobody wants to do that. Daller: Oh, theOh God now, whats it called? Staten Island . I went to boot camp, I loved it. Get service details, leave condolence messages or send flowers in memory of a loved one in New York. And it was called SS White [Dental Manufacturing Company]. They just went and just vandalized it to hell until there was nothing but a shell left. Q: So its budgets and the contractors, all that stuff. Burke: Let me think of how all that started. The one owned by the steel companywas that a beautiful house! He appreciated it. I wanted to ask about the Equestrian Center. And I dream that I heard some noise. Viewing times and guestbooks can be found here . The roof was shot because the old guy that was caretaker here, he used to walk around on the roof and watch all the boats in the harbor. Daller: A lot of the paintings came from Europe, though. It was terrible. And over the years, it became just prohibitive to try and do. And think about it. I bought those in Germany. And the basement was beautiful, where you can walk out onto the porch and out into the garden. You know, everybody knew him, and everybody, wow. Will they appreciate it? So as long as I own it, I own it, theyll pay for it. You know, he just passed away. Click here to view all obituaries Search Obituaries Contact Us / Location. A lot of the windows were broken out of it. He moved into the house shortly after the sale, and worked from the basement to the roof, and outwards throughout the grounds and stables, to complete the restoration. This was all field, all the way up, and she used to turn the horses loose on all the fields out there. Of course, she loved the smell of lilacs. You come out and take over the boys and mens department in the store. I said, Thats fine. Leave your condolences to the family on this memorial page or send flowers to show you care. And the porch, I dont thinkone end of it, you wouldnt dare walk on because the whole thing would have collapsed. And from the garden, you could come back in under the porch and down into the kitchen in the basement. And I studied architecture and the history of design and everything, I know all that. But I had all this beautiful carved stuff. I said, No, no, no. So that was the reason we chose to do a White Party. But I had all that money! And I had a little house in Tottenville so I decided, well, Ill move into this big housein hereand Ill get rid of all the property that I have in Tottenville. And now the people that I sold it to, the Pistillis [James and Kathleen Pistilli], they had the whole thing researched and now its got landmark things on it and everything. Q: You mentioned that the South Shore has changed in the last few years. That was the most beautiful mansion. Sell the other half to Billthat was my brother and you and George, move with me to Florida. So we all thought that was a great idea. And I had this goddamn old sergeant who was going back also, but he was getting out of the service, and he was being discharged. Yes. Daller: He did the sofa upstairs as well. But the problem is, its so limited on Staten Island. Burke: Oh god. And it was very much built like this house. They were some kind of jewelry like that but I dont remember what it was. When he came he got everything going. Daller: Yes. And right outside the window right here, is a great big round, thing thats all brickgreat big round thing, big as this room, covered-overand thats where all the water from the drain pipe from the roof would go in there and fill it, and it was called a cistern, and that was connected to the kitchen downstairs. Stony Brook. So they said, You better get back here and do something. So I came back, got out of the military, got a job working for Saks Fifth Avenue. I found three things like that. And I worked there for quite a while, and I lived in the Bronx. Loving son of Joan (Perry) Burke of Plymouth and the late George W. Burke. Save my house. And I thought, Oh, shit. I was down on the beach one day, I forgot what were doing. Its still that way. That was a shame. You just named them. Dont remember what happened to it, right? And hes the one that did my portrait upstairs. I was living in London, and I was studying the history of art and design, or something like that, in the University of London, and he was going and he was studying art. Burke: Hawaii. And the last time I went there, there was all houses built in it. Hes the man that built the house. Interviewee: George Burke Location: Staten Island, NY Interviewer: Sarah Dziedzic Date: November 9, 2021 . And he dealed in antique rugs, and regular rugs and everything. And they repaired all these taxis, repainted them, and then sold them all to Cuba. I moved in the house, and I would come in the house, and right in the front hallway, you could always smell lilacs. Burke: I was thinking about getting a big home, having a home, and what I would want in itthe paintings, what kind of furniture, carpets, everything. When I bought the house, the real estate people, they wouldnt go in. And not only that, we got a lot of manureI used to have it to put on all the gardens and to put on the fields and whatnot. And because of that, and especially the interior design thing, I went around, did little jobs, and did things, and because I learned so much by going to that to school there, that when I got back here, I got nice little jobs here and there. Q: And so, what sort of vision do you have for, you know, the next the next forty years, for how the grounds are maintained and how. Its still there in Port Richmond. And I said, Oh, shit. And I got a good price for that. Its down in Tottenville, beautifully done. Daller: But he has albums upstairs, photos. Daller: But it feels like home. Q: I mean, I live in a small apartment, so what is it like to live in a kind of museum quality home? Beloved husband of Rosanna (Ialuna) Burke. Burke: She has it. Q: So part of why it closed was because. And were doing this interview in Burkes home, in the Seguine Mansion on the South Shore of Staten Island. Burke: I went and I was stationed in England, and I loved being in England. And a lot of it got given away, got lost. As a young adult, he joined the U.S. Air Force and served in the medical department, spending time in locations across Europe and Alaska. Ill tell you the good stuff! [laughs] And that was it. And my uncle came in and was part of the whole group. They even stopped you riding in the parks. My sister, Frances, got me a nice little apartment in the Bronx, right next to her. So I got this on the front porch somewhere, nailed to the house, butdoesnt matter. Its, all the numbers are accounted for. George: Oh, I knew the Seguines for years. And in the basement, I put the kitchen and a dining area and everything. The one in particular, United States Steel [Corporation]. So I just grew up with it, knowing it. Because he lived right here, lived right here on Staten Island. Would you like to elaborate on that? And then of course, being in New York and being in the thing like that, I got to be very, very good friends, with Scalamandr. Q: The stuff that you got in England, from Mrs. Murphy. These are those Persian carpets. Yes. I cant think ofdoesnt matter, the name of the people. Q: And thats what allowed you to buy this house? Everybody had left, and Bess and Marge were there, and Bess said to me, George, sit down. And it did all the dental workany kind of dental work and everything was manufactured there. Burke is joined in this interview by his niece, Linda Daller. They couldnt handle it, the clientele that came in. Tarrytown-Sleepy Hollow. Burke: Oh. Burke: I think that waswhod ya call-it got me involved with that. Burke: Oh, well, look what I did. Thats how I got to know Adriana Scalamandr and the Scalamandrs. Q: When you were youngwhen you were a kid. Ticonderoga. Where all the servants lived. But what she did is she sold off parcel after parcel in order for her to live here in the house because she had no income. Lives in Rochester, New York. And if theyre gonna make a museum out of it, theyre gonna have to pay somebody to greet people and take them on tours. And the backyard is beautiful. Burke: So that should pretty well cover it, I think. George Burke was born on Staten Island and grew up in Annandale before moving to Florida with his family. Burke: Oh, my nephew. And then he got married and moved in with his wife. Coach Robert Joseph "Bob" Burke, 74, died April 4, 2020, at home, surrounded by his loving family, in Wilson, N.C. What a gorgeous home that was. Burke: But anyway, when my time was up in the service, they shipped me back here to, Burke: Alaska, and I stayed in Alaska. And I could turn the horses loose and theyd keep all the fields cut and mowed, you know? I loved Alaska. I wanted to know some more details about the life tenancy. Because back when they built the houses, kitchens were never built in the house. Q: And so when you were deciding what to collect, were you thinking about. So thank you. Daller: You know, people dont understand them. That whole salon set there was a Victorian salon setand the couch is a camelback. Q: How did you establish a relationship with the Parks Department and the Historic House Trust? Ario George Lazzari Ario George Lazzari, 82, passed away on February 26, 2023 at NYU Langone Hospital in Brooklyn, New York. Theyre all McMansions. You can go and look and read about anything about the South Shore of Staten Island. And through all the years that the old lady had this woman taking care of her, the lilacs were always in bloomwhen they were in bloom, they were in the house. Valhalla. Right? It was unbelievably gorgeous. Sure, Id no idea of ever owning his house because I had a beautiful big house in Tottenvillebig French style house. Prince Edward Island. I knew what she looked like, I knew where it was. Thats why I did what I did, because I figured that if anything ever happens to me, all of this, now, will have to stay as it is. So when he left the apartment and came to Staten Island, things started to move back into different sisters again until he was ready to relocate it again. Of course, over therewhen I was over thereEngland was just getting out of the bad part of the War [World War II], and they had nothing over there. I had all the plasters done. And it didnt take long to sell because it was a big piece of property, nice house. So she said, Bess said, Were going to have to quit, George. I said Oh, shit. And right there in front of the windows was a coffin with all the flowers around it and everything. And there was a big flight of stairs that went across the big porch across the front of the house, posts. Burke: Scalia. The developers came in with bulldozersbulldozed that mansion, bulldozed the stables. And they would give me all kinds of beautiful little carved objects and things that would be carved out of the whales teeth or. And I went from room to room and it took me a couple of years, didnt it? Q: So tell me about what its been like for you to live here. And have something on a loop in here, which weve been trying to do, where itll be an audio and a video of him discussing the house, because nobody knows it any better than he does. So here I was with all this stuff, sending it home to my family, sending it to my sisters. And after he died the family still lived like we had my fathers money involved. Yes. Unfortunately, you got to find environmentalists, theyve got to look for things and theyve got to point things out. You got to get out. So we moved to Florida. And I took interior design and the history of architecture, and something else. And he was stationed here, in St. George, and he would come home and wed live in the house. She had a caretaker or she had a woman that took care of her, or something. I bet I left the cellar door open under the stairwell, from the basement, and I bet thats the soap Ive got in the washing machine that smells like that. No, it wasnt that. Burke: And what is a shame islike, you take [one of our former boarders], she has two horses that she used to keep here all the time. But anyway, she said, Im not going in the house. And that painting of me, thats upstairs in my bedroomdid you ever see it? Its empty. When did it start to feel done? And she was living here all by herself. And I miss all those horses. Unbelievable. But that was a big improvement, putting in the kitchen, because there never was a kitchen in the houseand where the kitchen is now, that was the laundry room. Because look how long the war went, and England had nothing. And these roofs had big arches, like this. I probably gave it to Bess. And thats where she was. She said, You saw her in your dream. I said, Holy shit, I said, you think that was her? She said, It could have been her. I said, Then she went like that and chased me out of her house. She said, That was her. She said shell keep the doors locked and call Linda if anybody wants to get in and take anything out. Burke: One was a necklace with a heart on it. So it was fascinating. Q: [Laughs] Yes. Daller: Mm-hmm! I need to get someone in to do a good cleaning on the house, someone to take care of maintaining it. Special thanks to The Peggy N and Roger G Gerry Charitable Trust for their support to complete this initiative. Of course, nothings there. I have no idea what it would be like to live in some other place. And the people that lived there, they got a little too old to stay there. But unfortunately, all the stuff up there was cured by urine. And I want somebody to take care of it. What the hell is that coming from? So I come down the stairs, and as I got down the stairs, the spelling got stronger and stronger. And I never had timesometimes Id be sleeping on the pool table there because I just couldnt leave! And she was laying with her arms, like that. And that guy, look at the size of that house he just built. . So its saved forever. I forgottheres ten acres that is landmarked now. Finally, I think his wife got sick with that lung disease, didnt she? Burke: Yes, I paid off this house. So I said to her, I said Bess, the only thing Ill save your house is a bulldozer! Would you just sell me two acres there? And the whole big building used to be a big private home, and then they had made it into a restaurant. I know all the grounds that were around it were beautiful gardens. He spends time in every part of it. And I took that for years. Skip to main content (800) 896-5587. My sisterher mother [indicates Daller], Francesmy sister living in the Bronx, she got me a little apartment and she got me a job working for Saks Fifth Avenue. Im going to retire, Im going to go down to that big old house, restore it, fix it all up, move in it, and enjoy it. But how many people really have a sense of history anymore? So I went out and I said toI had two roommates, and I said to my roommates, Wheres my box? And they said Oh, well, Sergeant Joiner came in and took it. I said, Oh, no! I went running out. But things that, well, were thatyou needed carpenters that knew, that were good carpenters. This whole corneryou could stand and see the street out there, so this whole corner was rebuilt. It was so overgrown in the front yard and everything. Burke: I dont find any difference living here. Constantly. Daller: And he uses every room, he doesnt sit in one room. George Burke. They gave me the fabric and they did it and such. And they were slate, the roof, and by walking on the slates, they broke and they slid off, and wherever they slid off, the rain poured through because it was holes. Daller: What about the coat? Formal gardens, stablesstables that you could live in. Its going to hell. Q: And how did you keep track of all the items in your collection as they were moving from, Burke: Well, a lot of this stuff, I never got back, because once you left it for years and years, you werent going to go back and say, Well, give me that, and give me this. Was it your mother I gave her all the blue and. She lived up on Lighthouse Hill. I went to grammar school and high school here. You werent allowed to buy much because it was worth a fortune over there to the general public, to the British. If it wasnt for Mrs. Mackey across the street telling me about the funeral, I would have never known. 06/26/1943 - 02/20/2023. Daller: Oh, yes. The real estate lady wouldnt come in. But I restored all that. And he had helped meyou know, while I had my own ideas for design, and whatever I thought of, he said, George, thats great. It was like a mansion youve never seen. And there was nobody but my mother and I now, living in our house. But big stuff like couches and chairs and that kind of thing. He was born here. Born in the Province of Pola, Italy, "George" settled in the Bronx. Daller: Then you got rid of thatbut those are the early days. I collected all my antiques and all my stuff when I was traveling. Troy. Syracuse. Well, by this time, I had a lot of money. Q: Was it a similar style? And I said, What in the hell is this doing in my house? So I opened up the lid and there was this old lady laying in there, with this big lace collar around her neck, and her hair was puffed up behind her head, like that, was all gray. February 26, 2023 (70 years old) View obituary. Daller: But thats how he [referring to the painting of Mr. Seguine] came back to the house. Or did you have to just guess and make decisions? Shit. The only thing that will save this house as a bulldozer! [laughs] But anyway, I saved it. Q: So those things that you got later on, afterthey didnt come from Europe. And then I shipped it all back home. Do you drink? No, we dont drink. So I would collect all the stamps. Burke: Well, the house, actually, from the outside, is aoh, shitthe name of it went right out of my head. First thing I started with was the basement because it had four-foot of water in it. With that old fabric, theres enough to make drapes for one window. Theyd come out and Id say, Look, I can get you this. And the post is still there and the staircase is still in good shapebut thats still in the house, now, down there. Q: And, do you keep records on, on those kinds of things? Burke: Oh, when I bought the house, everybody told me, Oh, what are you buying that old crap for? Well, I didnt say I bought it because I got it practically for nothing because they couldnt get rid of it. So thats where I got most of the stuff thats here in the house today. Frank Tredici Jr., age 79, of Staten Island, New York, passed away on Monday, February 20th, 2023. And as I said, for a thing of whiskey or a bottle of wine, theyd give you anything, because none of them have had it for years and years. Isnt that a huge house theyre building, you told me? So while I used to work then with them, and then I decided, this is not for me. So it just became a moot point. I dont think anythings missing? Chris was the one that got involved with it. Im offered fortunes for the front field, for the side field, for the backfield. And then, on the third floor, which was in the mansard roof, that was all the servants quarters. So most of the stuff is Victorianturn of the century and Victorian. And she was laying like this. Thats what I wanted. The Seguine Mansion, also known as The Seguine-Burke Mansion, is located on Lemon Creek near the southern shore of Staten Island. Aug. 16, 1954 - February 25, 2023 Loving and loyal husband, father, brother, uncle, great uncle and friend. Burke: Yes, I had to go down in the basement, and put a post, and then I had to jack up the stairs. And then I what else? What a shame. New York obituaries and death notices, 1986 to rent. Burke: Right across the creek. He also discusses the donation of the Seguine Mansion to the Historic House Trust, and his vision for the ongoing maintenance of the home and property. More beautiful than peoples houses. And I didnt realize it because I was always working. In fact, I think it was just landmarked wasnt it? Well, what are we talking about? He was from Central America somewhere, and he just believed in everything had to be right. 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